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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14665</link>
		<author>me</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 21:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In which situation do you feel yourself safer? :(please answer)
a) nukes in hands of USA (with all their security measures)
b) nukes in hand of Iran (with a government having said it would like to destroy someone..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In which situation do you feel yourself safer? :(please answer)<br />
a) nukes in hands of USA (with all their security measures)<br />
b) nukes in hand of Iran (with a government having said it would like to destroy someone..)</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14664</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 08:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be safer for everyone if no country in the world has nukes. It would also be safer for everyone if the USA did not cause anger in the world due to stupidly thought out rash foreign policies. They should with all their knowledge and expertise be setting examples for all the other countries in the world to follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be safer for everyone if no country in the world has nukes. It would also be safer for everyone if the USA did not cause anger in the world due to stupidly thought out rash foreign policies. They should with all their knowledge and expertise be setting examples for all the other countries in the world to follow.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14663</link>
		<author>me</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 06:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14663</guid>
		<description>mostly true,
yet you've not answered my last question</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mostly true,<br />
yet you&#8217;ve not answered my last question</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14661</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 21:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14661</guid>
		<description>me:

Your neighbour analogy does not work here, there is history of the USA having done stuff to Iran. I will name a few:

Quoting from wikipedia: "In 1951, Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh was elected prime minister. As prime minister, Mossadegh became enormously popular in Iran after he nationalized the Iran's oil reserves. In response, Britain embargoed Iranian oil and invited the United States to join in a plot to depose of Mossadegh; and, in 1953, President Eisenhower authorized Operation Ajax. The operation was successful, and Mossadegh was arrested on August 19, 1953."

So above example was where a democratically elected prime-minister was deposed by the USA and Britain and caused Iran to become a dictatorship again. If you call that "haven't done anything", I would not be envious of your neighbour.

Let's take something more recent, the Iran-Iraq war instigated by Saddam Hussein:

"With his armed forces now benefiting from the influx of material and financial support from Western powers such as the United States of America and France, Saddam went on the offensive on 28 January, 1985, for the first time since late 1980." again quoted from Wikipedia.

There is a history of meddling in the middle east by Britain and the USA. I mean the middle east is thousands of miles away, why waste so much brainpower, energy, resources and people's lives just to screw up countries so far away.

Bringing up the current situation is Iraq is laughable, over a million Iraqis and counting have been killed in this war. Was it really worth these people's lives that an ill-thought out offensive from countries thousands of miles away and worst on false pretences. The world leaders at the time kid the world with all this talk of weapons of mass destruction. The 2,998 people who died as a result of 9/11, may they rest in peace, will probably be thinking now looking at what has happened since seeing that their own leaders are using the same tactics as those cowardly 9/11 plane hijackers and that is launching wars under false pretences except with much higher casualty rates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me:</p>
<p>Your neighbour analogy does not work here, there is history of the USA having done stuff to Iran. I will name a few:</p>
<p>Quoting from wikipedia: &#8220;In 1951, Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh was elected prime minister. As prime minister, Mossadegh became enormously popular in Iran after he nationalized the Iran&#8217;s oil reserves. In response, Britain embargoed Iranian oil and invited the United States to join in a plot to depose of Mossadegh; and, in 1953, President Eisenhower authorized Operation Ajax. The operation was successful, and Mossadegh was arrested on August 19, 1953.&#8221;</p>
<p>So above example was where a democratically elected prime-minister was deposed by the USA and Britain and caused Iran to become a dictatorship again. If you call that &#8220;haven&#8217;t done anything&#8221;, I would not be envious of your neighbour.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take something more recent, the Iran-Iraq war instigated by Saddam Hussein:</p>
<p>&#8220;With his armed forces now benefiting from the influx of material and financial support from Western powers such as the United States of America and France, Saddam went on the offensive on 28 January, 1985, for the first time since late 1980.&#8221; again quoted from Wikipedia.</p>
<p>There is a history of meddling in the middle east by Britain and the USA. I mean the middle east is thousands of miles away, why waste so much brainpower, energy, resources and people&#8217;s lives just to screw up countries so far away.</p>
<p>Bringing up the current situation is Iraq is laughable, over a million Iraqis and counting have been killed in this war. Was it really worth these people&#8217;s lives that an ill-thought out offensive from countries thousands of miles away and worst on false pretences. The world leaders at the time kid the world with all this talk of weapons of mass destruction. The 2,998 people who died as a result of 9/11, may they rest in peace, will probably be thinking now looking at what has happened since seeing that their own leaders are using the same tactics as those cowardly 9/11 plane hijackers and that is launching wars under false pretences except with much higher casualty rates.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14660</link>
		<author>me</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14660</guid>
		<description>What especial threat? Name examples please...

When -except for Hiroshima &#38; Nagasaki - the USA used weapons of massdestruction? Having the stockpile of that bigness as USA having it at the moment, is understandable if you regard the same situation with russia and former soviet union.

Do you think that there would be a peace without the 'GB and USA meddling'? (don't forget former soviet interests)

My analogy is that, I, the neighbour with the bent nose, haven't done anything to my neighbour. But stil my neighbour is going to kill me. (you can compare it f.e. with Hutu vs. Tutsi in Rwanda)

You instead, are giving the full responsibility to the whole population of a country.

It's a kind of obsession with "jihad"-ish-things, not more. 

You cannot also give full responsibility to the GB and USA. I mean, aren't there, in the middle east people living, having own countries, own government? Why don't they try to improve the situation by their selves? Instead they are blaming the GB or USA or every other Western-Country for their situation. Maybe because it is the only thing keeping them at their positions - in countries where the education is not so good as it should be.

The stabilization process in Iraq could be much more faster, when Syria and Iran didn't support some 'combatants' with weapons. Why do they so? It should be in their interest having a stabilized Iraq. Are they just too greedy?

And when a state government (like Iran) is proclaiming that it will destroy some other nation, and by the way is removing the IAEA-staff from their facilities, which is very alarming.

Yes of cource, you can easily say afterwards, when Iran conducts a bomb (f.e. in Bagdad or Jerusalem), that it was because of the threat of the USA.

In which situation do you feel yourself safer? : 
a) nukes in hands of USA (with all their security measures)
b) nukes in hand of Iran (with a government having said it would like to destroy someone..)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What especial threat? Name examples please&#8230;</p>
<p>When -except for Hiroshima &amp; Nagasaki - the USA used weapons of massdestruction? Having the stockpile of that bigness as USA having it at the moment, is understandable if you regard the same situation with russia and former soviet union.</p>
<p>Do you think that there would be a peace without the &#8216;GB and USA meddling&#8217;? (don&#8217;t forget former soviet interests)</p>
<p>My analogy is that, I, the neighbour with the bent nose, haven&#8217;t done anything to my neighbour. But stil my neighbour is going to kill me. (you can compare it f.e. with Hutu vs. Tutsi in Rwanda)</p>
<p>You instead, are giving the full responsibility to the whole population of a country.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a kind of obsession with &#8220;jihad&#8221;-ish-things, not more. </p>
<p>You cannot also give full responsibility to the GB and USA. I mean, aren&#8217;t there, in the middle east people living, having own countries, own government? Why don&#8217;t they try to improve the situation by their selves? Instead they are blaming the GB or USA or every other Western-Country for their situation. Maybe because it is the only thing keeping them at their positions - in countries where the education is not so good as it should be.</p>
<p>The stabilization process in Iraq could be much more faster, when Syria and Iran didn&#8217;t support some &#8216;combatants&#8217; with weapons. Why do they so? It should be in their interest having a stabilized Iraq. Are they just too greedy?</p>
<p>And when a state government (like Iran) is proclaiming that it will destroy some other nation, and by the way is removing the IAEA-staff from their facilities, which is very alarming.</p>
<p>Yes of cource, you can easily say afterwards, when Iran conducts a bomb (f.e. in Bagdad or Jerusalem), that it was because of the threat of the USA.</p>
<p>In which situation do you feel yourself safer? :<br />
a) nukes in hands of USA (with all their security measures)<br />
b) nukes in hand of Iran (with a government having said it would like to destroy someone..)</p>
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		<title>By: Zaheer Abbas Merali</title>
		<link>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14655</link>
		<author>Zaheer Abbas Merali</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14655</guid>
		<description>me:

I am pointing out hypocrisy not taking any sides. Take your analogy of the neighbour. Look at it from his point of view, you have blown up many houses in the city. Should he not be worried about you and your friends and take active steps to defend himself.

The threats to peace in the middle east in the last 65 years all have been as a direct result of GB and USA meddling in the middle east.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me:</p>
<p>I am pointing out hypocrisy not taking any sides. Take your analogy of the neighbour. Look at it from his point of view, you have blown up many houses in the city. Should he not be worried about you and your friends and take active steps to defend himself.</p>
<p>The threats to peace in the middle east in the last 65 years all have been as a direct result of GB and USA meddling in the middle east.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14648</link>
		<author>me</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 17:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14648</guid>
		<description>It wasn't meant as an insult.

Your comparison is strange:

1.On several occasions Iran (or it's government) threatened that it will destroy all zionsits (sometimes I hear 'jews', 'Israel')

2.If there is little evidence, that such a state is building ballistic missiles, which -theoretically- can be usede against american allies in that region, or directly against America, isn't this very suspicious? Isn't this a threat to the "peace" in the middle east, that is already very unstable?

3.Do you realy support a destabilization in that region, which may lead to a bigger war, involving all kinds of weapons, killing many millions of people?

4. By the way, which terrorist organizations does Iran support? (f.e. weapons supply etc.?)

In other words:

Here's an example: my neighbour has bought a gun; He don't realy like me, I don't know why, maybe becaus my nose is bent (or sth. else); He said to me, that one day he'll going to kill me; one day he takes his gun and is going to shoot me - it is very evident that he is going to do so; I'm very well aware of it: so what should I do, when there is little time left to save my life...  ...should I cry? should I wait?

Same thing with Iran: I visited Iran (Tehran) in 2003: Why are there slogans like: We will destroy America and the zionists in America...
Yes, of cource, Iran is a very very very peacful country...

Or is it becaus USA is a great supporter of Israel? And therefore you are 'very against' America &#38; Co.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t meant as an insult.</p>
<p>Your comparison is strange:</p>
<p>1.On several occasions Iran (or it&#8217;s government) threatened that it will destroy all zionsits (sometimes I hear &#8216;jews&#8217;, &#8216;Israel&#8217;)</p>
<p>2.If there is little evidence, that such a state is building ballistic missiles, which -theoretically- can be usede against american allies in that region, or directly against America, isn&#8217;t this very suspicious? Isn&#8217;t this a threat to the &#8220;peace&#8221; in the middle east, that is already very unstable?</p>
<p>3.Do you realy support a destabilization in that region, which may lead to a bigger war, involving all kinds of weapons, killing many millions of people?</p>
<p>4. By the way, which terrorist organizations does Iran support? (f.e. weapons supply etc.?)</p>
<p>In other words:</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example: my neighbour has bought a gun; He don&#8217;t realy like me, I don&#8217;t know why, maybe becaus my nose is bent (or sth. else); He said to me, that one day he&#8217;ll going to kill me; one day he takes his gun and is going to shoot me - it is very evident that he is going to do so; I&#8217;m very well aware of it: so what should I do, when there is little time left to save my life&#8230;  &#8230;should I cry? should I wait?</p>
<p>Same thing with Iran: I visited Iran (Tehran) in 2003: Why are there slogans like: We will destroy America and the zionists in America&#8230;<br />
Yes, of cource, Iran is a very very very peacful country&#8230;</p>
<p>Or is it becaus USA is a great supporter of Israel? And therefore you are &#8216;very against&#8217; America &amp; Co.?</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14641</link>
		<author>admin</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-14641</guid>
		<description>me: I am born and bred in the UK and as a UK citizen am allowed to express my dissatisfaction at some developments in international politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>me: I am born and bred in the UK and as a UK citizen am allowed to express my dissatisfaction at some developments in international politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Tor Lillqvist</title>
		<link>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-13863</link>
		<author>Tor Lillqvist</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-13863</guid>
		<description>I don't disagree with you in general, but please pay attention to details if you want credibility. When has the US used ballistic missiles in anger? I can't think of a case. Cruise missiles yes, but they are by definition not ballistic. Aren't the only ballistic missiles used in anger the V-2 by Germany in WW2 and Scuds by at least Iraq and maybe other Middle Eastern nations? And if you actually mean just the "bombs" part, well d'oh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree with you in general, but please pay attention to details if you want credibility. When has the US used ballistic missiles in anger? I can&#8217;t think of a case. Cruise missiles yes, but they are by definition not ballistic. Aren&#8217;t the only ballistic missiles used in anger the V-2 by Germany in WW2 and Scuds by at least Iraq and maybe other Middle Eastern nations? And if you actually mean just the &#8220;bombs&#8221; part, well d&#8217;oh.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
		<link>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-13859</link>
		<author>me</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 16:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2007/12/08/trying-to-save-face-on-hypocritical-foreign-policies/#comment-13859</guid>
		<description>It's very strange: you live probably in the UK but you're complainig very often about the western world. This is very confusing. If you don't like it then go back to where you came from....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very strange: you live probably in the UK but you&#8217;re complainig very often about the western world. This is very confusing. If you don&#8217;t like it then go back to where you came from&#8230;.</p>
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